X-Force #1/F

[Fred Slota]

I question the veracity of this item...

Is this just a listing for a #1-2 with a #1/B Deadpool card?  I thought the gold background was a second print that didn't come with a card?  Or should there be 4 other entries for gold backgrounds with each of the other four cards?

 

 

(As a second, related question - The positive vs. negative Captain America in the UPC box.   Is the negative really a second print?  Were there fewer of them than the positive ones?  Why do the five #1/A-2 through #1/E-2 have higher values than their respective #1/A through #1/E?)

[Fred Slota]

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[Gregory Hecht]

On 12/17/2024 at 11:41 PM, Fred Slota said:

I question the veracity of this item...

Is this just a listing for a #1-2 with a #1/B Deadpool card?  I thought the gold background was a second print that didn't come with a card?  Or should there be 4 other entries for gold backgrounds with each of the other four cards?

 

 

(As a second, related question - The positive vs. negative Captain America in the UPC box.   Is the negative really a second print?  Were there fewer of them than the positive ones?  Why do the five #1/A-2 through #1/E-2 have higher values than their respective #1/A through #1/E?)

GCD indicates that the negative Cap exists for this issue but their wording avoids calling those issues second printings. 
GCD states 6 versions (bagged w/ five different cards, unbagged gold second print)… but then they go on to say that each has both positive and negative Cap versions which (based on their wording) means that there should actually be TWELVE variants listed.  This assumes that GCD’s wording is technically precise, of course. 
 

The current CB listings don’t match the GCD description of the state of affairs for X-Force #1 and I would suggest that the use of the “2nd printing” descriptor for the negative Cap versions should be changed to something else.  

If the negative Cap versions aren’t indicative of second printings then they may indeed be much less common than other versions.
Like you, I would expect the unbagged gold positive Cap to be less valuable than the first print versions of any type. 

[Fred Slota]

That's to the second question - what about the first? Is the current listing for 1/F, a gold background with Deadpool card, an actual first-print-with-card variant, or a zombie listing mashing a second print that never had a card with a 1/B Deadpool card?

[Gregory Hecht]

3 hours ago, Fred Slota said:

That's to the second question - what about the first? Is the current listing for 1/F, a gold background with Deadpool card, an actual first-print-with-card variant, or a zombie listing mashing a second print that never had a card with a 1/B Deadpool card?

My guess is that it would be the latter. Like you, my recollection is that the good background was indicative of being a 2nd print and that only the first printings of X-Force #1 were polybagged with a trading card. But maybe Heritage or some other authority has evidence to the contrary?

[Doug MedicAR]

I was a fan of the gold second prints at the time and don't recall ever seeing one bagged for any Marvel title.