Douglas W. McCratic

On the advice of someone on here (sorry, I really don't remember whom it was) I moved a collection I track into Newspapers. The idea was that since I don't have newspapers, I could turn off updates and keep those items safe there after having them deleted repeatedly after updates. I went back in today to start rebuilding my missing items and am unable to duplicate anything in the title. I tried comics, books, and magazines and was able to duplicate items without issue. 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Sorry, I've had a lot on my plate lately and haven't had a good opportunity to follow up. As for the lack of a serial number, I have seen this kind of thing a few times although I can't immediately recall any specific titles. It's limited to 260 copies but the printer may make 350 (not specific, I just chose a random number) in the event of problems with any copies plus creator comps and the like. The original 260 were numbered and distributed at the convention but any others would lack the serial number and may make it into the market either from the publisher or through contributors to the book. As for finding any of these in CB, they weren't there as best I can tell. I have submitted a new title, "Tick, The: San Diego Comic-Con Exclusive Edition" for their SDCC exclusives from 2014 thru 2020. Maybe we will get luck this time and it will be accepted!

Would it be possible to change the chirps when adding items different for when an item is located in CB and when the UPC doesn't match anything? It's a picky little thing but I think it would make adding issues easier. I've had times when I've been putting new issues into CB and thought that they had been accepted only to count after it was over and then find that the barcode didn't take and doesn't match anything in the system. I can be a bit of a procrastinator and sometimes add tons of books at once and don't always look at the screen to verify that every book as found/added. Maybe a "ding" when it is found and a "buzz" when it isn't?

Under the comics title "Batman's Mystery Casebook" there are two items, #1 cover priced at $8.99 and #1-2 which was free. Looking #1 up, it shows to be 144 pages. #1-2 has 26 pages, less than 20% of the first print. Is calling it a second print really the right way to go? The cover reads that it "Includes a chapter of the graphic novel" and nothing in the indicia indicates a second print. Wouldn't "Special Edition" be a better designation since it's on the cover? Or maybe "Giveaway Version"?

A pic would be a huge help. Anything Tick related is an absolute nightmare. They randomly publish titles, specials, exclusives, and any number of other types of issues with no clear designation as to whether they are continuations of old titles, related to current titles, or straight up new series. I have tried many times to get my copy of the 2015 San Diego Comic Con blank variant into CB without success. I don't know if the title is so confusing that no one really pays attention anymore or my submissions are unclear in some way. For me, it goes back to the idea of breaking books out to match the indicia or at least grouping them together for exclusives like SDCC. This is the 2015 SDCC blank: I can find other SDCC blanks from 2015-2018. The #0 from 2018 is part of the 2017 series, assuming that it is actually from 2018. I have never handled any of these raw, only the slabbed versions so I can't open them to verify dates. Mine is from 2015 as it was signed that year. Beyond the blanks, there are other SDCC exclusives as well. I'm betting this is the original poster's book: I'm not finding it in CB either.

I hadn't considered it. That's a great idea!

It's under "Marvel Year In Review" as #6

Would be possible to add a check box to keep items from being a part of the weekly updates? Here's my dilemma, I have a collection of prop keys from Locke & Key. They are produced by Skelton Crew Studios and there are currently 55 of these and I have several but not all. I want to keep track of what I do and do not have but since they're not any of the media in CB, there's no reason to submit them and get them into the master database. The problem arises when I download a new update. The items I have in stock are safe but the items I do not have will be deleted every time unless I want to manually delete single issues of other titles every week.

Thanks for the help, sorry for the long delay in posts. I have done a rebuild fairly recently but I couldn't tell you exactly when. Let's say within a month or so. I do have all of the new titles mentioned ('Absolution (Avatar)') but not the ones that they changed from. I'll try starting a rebuild tonight and try again this weekend to see what happens. I'm using CB 2022.0.2.1680

After downloading the update, I checked Unrecognized Items and was shocked to find a very long list. I usually have several unrecognized items as I have used extremely high printings to denote sketched covers in my collection where I have scanned the actual books and attached them to my CB entry/database. I also enter FCBD issues as such in their respective titles rather than as FCBD variants (i.e. Savage Dragon #148 is Savage Dragon FCBD 2009 in my DB). This time is very different, though. For the sake of space, I stopped at DC but they went on through X-Men: The Jewels of Cyttorak These are unrecognized items that are not in my database: 007 1/A thru 1/L 007 2/A thru 2/I A Midsummer Night’s Dream (Manga Classics) 1 Absolution 0 thru 0/C Absolution 1 thru 1/F Absolution 2 thru 2/H Absolution 3 thru 3/G Absolution 4 thru 4/D Absolution 5 thru 5/D Absolution 6 thru 6/D Absolution Bk 1 Absolution Bk 1/HC Aggretsuko: Out to Lunch 1 thru 2 Avengers, The (Aus. Edition) 1 Avengers, The (Aus. Edition) 2 Avengers, The (Aus. Edition) 326 Captain America Epic Collection: Arena of Death 1 Captain America Epic Collection: The Bloodstone Hunt 1 Champion, The 1 Damage Control (Vol. 4) 2 Damage Control (Vol. 4) 2/A DC Saved by the Belle Reve 1 DC Saved by the Belle Reve 1/A Then we have unrecognized items that actually are in my database and are available on Atomic Avenue Avengers 1,000,000 B.C. 1 thru 1/C Avengers and Moon Girl, The 1 thru 1/B Batman: White Knight Presents Red Hood 1thru 1/C Batman: White Knight Presents Red Hood 2 thru 2/B And finally, books that show as unrecognized items in comics but exist in books in my databse: 1996 Robotech Comic Calendar 1 Art and Making of Transformers, The: War For Cybertron 1/HC Captain Marvel (Golden) 1/HC Cerebus: High Society Notebook 1 Cerebus: High Society Notebook 1-2 DC Comics Encyclopedia, The 1/HC DC Comics Encyclopedia, The 1/HC-2 DC Comics Encyclopedia, The 1/HC-3 DC Comics Encyclopedia, The 1/HC-4 DC Comics Encyclopedia, The 2/HC DC Comics Super Heroes Good Health and Activity Book 1 DC Comics Super Heroes Good Health and Activity Book 1-2 DC Comics Super Heroes Good Health and Activity Book 1-3 DC Comics Super Heroes Good Health and Activity Book 1-4 DC Comics Super Heroes Good Health and Activity Book 1-5 DC Comics Super Villains: 100 Greatest Moments 1/HC DC Comics: A Celebration of the World’s Favorite Comic Book Heroes 1 DC Comics: A Celebration of the World’s Favorite Comic Book Heroes 1-2 DC Super Heroes: Batman 1 thru 14 DC Super Heroes: Batman 23 DC Super Heroes: Batman 24 DC Super Heroes: Can You Help Save the Day? 1 DC Super Heroes: Super Heroes Need Friends Too 1/HC DC Super Heroes: Superman 1 thru 14 DC Super Heroes: Superman 23 DC Super Heroes: Superman 24 DC Super Heroes: The Big Book of Girl Power DC Super Heroes: The Dark Knight 6 thru 8 DC Super Heroes: The Man of Steel 1 thru 8 DC Super Heroes: Wonder Woman 1 thru 4 DC Super Heroes: Wonder Woman 8 thru 12 I tried to force a second download of the update but nothing changed. Did anyone else have anything close to this?

I'm thinking a note about Perrier simply for clarification?

Correct. I'm sure there's some kind of joke in there beyond the obvious reference to the bottled water. I've read it but don't recall any in-story reference to a Perrier. I'll read it again to be sure though. To my knowledge, Matt Kindt had not used a pen name. His art is pretty distinctive and this book certainly fits his usual style. Plus, there's the pic of him on his Facebook page working on them...

It's just not there at all? It is in mine currently.

The few that I tried to change all suffer from the same problem as discussed in the thread above.

Here's a really odd little book. It's a mini comic by Matt Kindt and it is tied in to his current miniseries, "Mind MGMT Bootleg." If you're not familiar with Matt Kindt, he is one of the most unique creators in comics. He has done a book and record set as well as a Jack Chick style book as part of his Mind MGMT series (world?). This mini comic is being printed as a back up story in the series "Mind MGMT Bootleg" but it was collected into this edition that was given away at SDCC 2022. The confusion arises from the fact that there is no indicia, the only credit is on the front cover and reads "by Perrier." There is no publisher listed, no date, no price, no UPC, just a comic story. It mentions "Mind MGMT" in the context of the story but otherwise appears to be a standalone book. Mr. Kindt has posted pictures of the process of its creation and said that it would be handed out to the first 50 attendees of his panel at SDCC. So does it belong with Mind MGMT? Does it get its own entry? Do I credit Matt Kindt or Perrier?

New Fantastic Four #1-G is listed as a Todd Nauck cover and even has a UPC but I can't find any evidence that this particular book exists. There is a forthcoming second print (to release on 8/3/2022) of this issue with a Todd Nauck cover but I can't find where one exists as yet.

While they are very different in the type of correction, they're not different at all to the user with those titles in stock. One is a fix of typographic errors that border on unnoticeable, the other is a fix to titles that were entered using a variety of methods over a long period of time creating difficulty for users. Both require the user to either move their entries to the new title or miss out on the benefits included with CB. Either way, the decision is made that one is worthy of an end user having to make a tweak to their database while the other is not. It's absurd to me that having users move entries for a deleted space is acceptable while leaving series with the same title a complete mess for fear of confusing the users is a good idea. Additionally, these flaws are not just a difficulty for CB users, they become a difficulty for Atomic Avenue users as well. While weeding through Metal Men, one is likely to come across the title they are looking for within a very short time. If one searches for Avatarex, they are very likely going to find it with or without the space after the ellipsis. If looking for the Justice League Spectacular (as mentioned in another thread) a new CB user will have considerable difficulty if they find it at all. If looking to purchase the book, many potential Atomic Avenue customers will likely stop looking pretty quickly, costing sellers potential buyers. When pushing for a fix on these series' titles, I'm not even saying it needs to be done my way. It does need to done in some way that is quickly and easily recognizable to the newest user. I am quick to recommend CB when people ask for a way to catalog their collection but I do it with the caveat that the titles don't always make sense and that one may have to search a bit to find the correct title for their book.

I picked the two that showed up on my list but logically, there had to be others. I 100% agree that these changes should have been made. The frustration arises from the fact that a single space in an obscure title is deemed important enough to inconvenience users but something as important as putting entire series in a reasonable order isn't a concern. How about this, we get titles like Metal Men, Star Wars, Fantastic Four, X-Men, Wolverine, Avengers, Challengers of the Unknown, etc. corrected like Walt has suggested with a year at then end of the title. This may be a year long project with many of us working on it both in the field and at HC. Once completed, a single long list is sent to all users to inform them of the changes and that they need to check their databases and transfer the books in their collection to the new titles. Plan B would be that as titles are brought into line, once a month, a notice is sent along with the updates, similar to how a new build of CB is pushed out. Users would see the titles are changed and could move their books to the new titles in smaller pieces to make it seem less overwhelming. I have more than 21,000 books in CB right now. To say that it will be a huge project to move even the portion that are involved with correcting just the titles I listed in this post is an understatement. The reality is that for CB to remain relevant, it must be accurate and organized in a way that even the most novice collector can quickly and easily find titles.

Sorry, Walt, you're talking above my head. It came out in the Unrecognized Items, so I assume there must be some kind of change made as they weren't there in the past.

The Avengers (1963) #1 has six variants listed. The first variant, #1-A has the title "The Coming of the Avengers" on the cover was released in 2012. The blasphemy that is the cover is correct in the pic. Who ever thought that Jack Kirby's original cover needed to be drowned by an extremely heavy handed modern colorist? The colorist's work on this cover makes Vince Colletta's inks look like a refined master. To make it worse, look at Iron Man's head. They not only made a mess of the colors, but added lines that make him look like a turtle trying to hide in its shell. The indicia reads "Avengers 1: The Coming of the Avengers!" so it really should be it's own title, not that it matters. The second variant, #1-B, is listed as the "El Capitan Theatre" variant but has the J. Scott Campbell variant cover for StanLeeCollectibles.com pictured. This book is actually a variant of #1-A and has the correct picture listed under #1-E. The El Capitan Theatre logo on the cover gives it away. El Capitan was released in 2012, the StanLeeCollectibles.com was released in 2014. Klaus Janson DID NOT ink the cover. Nei Ruffino colored this cover as indicated on the limited edition lithograph produced from the same art. Since there is a color credit but no inker mentioned, I think it is safe to say that if there is an inked version, J. Scott Campbell was responsible for the inks. #1-C is the sketch version of the J. Scott Campbell variant produced for StanLeeCollectibles.com which is noted on the lower left of the cover. It is produced from the pencils, there is no inker. I feel like it was also offered through the JScottCampbell.com store as they currently have shared exclusives but I can't be certain. #1-D has the exact same pic as #1-C but purports to be signed by Dick Ayers and limited to 50 copies. No signature is visible and while certainly possible, I think this is unlikely as this issue was offered initially as an SDCC exclusive and is still frequently referred to as such. It was released in 2014 and SDCC is generally in July but Mr. Ayers died in May of 2014. He may have signed some prior to his passing, but I have never seen one available and cannot find any references to them. Does anyone actually have a copy? Did it include a COA as that it apparently the minimum necessary to get signed issues listed? #1-E has no description whatsoever but the notes indicate that is was limited to 1500 copies printed for the El Capitan Theatre for the Avengers movie premiere. The pic is correct and has the John Romita Jr. cover pictured, again with the El Capitan Theatre logo on the cover to help verify it. The cover is inked and signed by Klaus Janson with colors by Dean White. I do not have a raw copy and cannot verify that the interior colors have or have not been "remastered." #1 is fine. #1-A is fine, cover art not withstanding. #1-B should be the El Capitan Theatre edition and have the pic from #1-E attached to it. It was released in 2012 and is a variant cover for #1-A, so I'm thinking this should be #1-B. The credits need to be cleaned up as well with John Romita Jr, on the cover, Klaus Janson inking the cover, and Dean White somewhere in the colorist section. UPC is 75960607726700121 #1-C need some cleanup. There is no cover inker and the description should probably include StanLeeCollectibles.com variant or Stan Lee surrounded by Marvel heroes. No UPC is on this book. #1-D possibly deleted? #1-E I guess should be the StanLeeCollectibles.com color variant with the pic from #1-B attached to it. It has a J. Scott Campbell cover/inks with colors by Nei Ruffino. No UPC is on this book. #1-F is fine, I assume. I don't have this one. If this sounds a bit hostile, I'm sorry but this isn't the first time I've corrected these books. The one signed by Ayers is new but otherwise I've submitted corrections on these before, seen them correct, and now they're a mess again. I'm confident that I added the Campbell cover and the Theatre edition initially with all the correct info as they were released some time apart.

So what is the threshold for it being "okay" to change a title? This week, I had two come back as Unrecognized Comic Titles. They were "Avatarex (Grant Morrison’s… )" and "Night Terrors: Graveyard Moon (John Carpenter’s… )". They were changed to "Avatarex (Grant Morrison’s…)" and "Night Terrors: Graveyard Moon (John Carpenter’s…)". I'l wait while you find the difference. SPOILERS BELOW.... Did you find it? Did you find that a single space after the ellipsis in each title was removed? A SINGLE SPACE. We changed two titles for a single space in the title. How is this acceptable but it is somehow not acceptable to change titles as mentioned in this thread to fix them so that they make some kind of sense? We have discussed how it might inconvenience some collectors and prevent them from getting updates to the titles that they own. Why inconvenience some collectors for the sake of a single space in a title but not others to make huge corrections to make the db follow some sensible order?

Wow....just....wow. What a mess this title became. I personally prefer that it be left as a comic but I also understand why it was moved away from that format. What I don't understand is how it became a book instead of a magazine. "TPB" doesn't work at all and now there are deluxe editions thrown in to make it extra confusing. If I recall correctly, it was published monthly and was generally on time more than any other books of the era.

In addition to slowing things down, without the knowledge I now have from digging all over for information on these books, it doesn't make any sense. The original title was "Justice League" in 1987 but that became "Justice League International," which changed titles in 1989 to "Justice League America." The trouble is that the books in question were placed under Justice League America, throwing a word into the title that is nowhere on these books. I understand that these two have the same writer/artist as was on the main title at the time but finding it would be near impossible without knowing that or looking for the title.

I'm with you again. If that story hadn't been indexed, would you have ever found it?

Just noticed the price on this is different in the old comic listing, the TPB was $61 which is probably right but the listing in books only shows cover.