Scott J. Promish Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I just picked up the hardcover collected edition of Becky Cloonan and Tula Lotay's Somna and I'm not sure how to designate it in my CB. The Book #1 Hardcover is the direct market edition with a different cover. Book #1 Variation A has a similar cover, but the colors are different, and mine doesn't have the DSTLRY logo in the upper right corner. I wonder if that might be a preliminary cover in CB/AA. The book just came out and mine is a first printing. I've attached a scan of my copy below. I cannot compare the ISBN as my CB is not up to date. But the ISBN on my book is 9781962265010. So I need to know if I should replace the Variation A with my cover, or create a new issue. If the latter, what designation should I give it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J. Castaneda Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 The Bk #1-A we have is oversized. the barcode you provided looks to be just a standard hardcover on Diamond's system with a full barcode number of 978196226501053000. Would suggest you add it as Bk 1-B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott J. Promish Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 Can you explain what you mean by oversized? My book, and the original comic were both printed in a larger than standard comic size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J. Castaneda Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 the listing on Diamond's website describes it as oversized (aka bigger than traditional comic book dimensions). My guess its tabloid size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott J. Promish Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 Yes, the comic was published in an oversized format, and so is my hardcover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J. Castaneda Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Honestly, we're not sure. There's isn't a lot of online data to tell whether our Bk 1/A is the same or not with what you're trying to add (at this time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott J. Promish Posted July 22 Author Share Posted July 22 (edited) Further information: The copyright page lists a standard ISBN and a direct market exclusive ISBN. Since I bought my copy at a comic book store, I would assume that is the direct market edition, but that is how Book 1 Hardcover is listed. https://atomicavenue.com/atomic/item/1390362/1/Somna-Book-1-Hardcover Is variation A a softcover? If so, why isn't it just Book 1? https://atomicavenue.com/atomic/item/1406836/1/Somna-Book-1-Variation-A Can you tell me what ISBNs you have for the two collected editions already in the database? Edited July 22 by Scott J. Promish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J. Castaneda Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 From the info provided by Diamond Bk 1/HC (ISBN # 978196226508957500) is the Direct Market Edition Bk 1/A (No ISBN #; just UPC #61499847345800111) is the Oversized Reserve Hardcover. If it helps, Diamond notes the dimensions as 10 9/16" x 13 1/4" My gut tells me Bk 1/A may be the same as what you're trying to add in if the dimensions match up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall J. Paske Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 On the Dstlry website, there are three versions of the Somna book. The regular hardcover comes in two covers. The MASS MARKET cover is the one @Scott J. Promish posted above, with a cover price of $30. The other cover, currently depicted in the database, is a DIRECT MARKET EXCLUSIVE with a cover price of $75. They say it has more interior pages and stuff than the mass market version, and it will be (or has been) printed to order. The DELUXE hardcover is VERY expensive at $200 (not the $40 shown in ComicBase) and has yet another different cover. It is limited to 400 copies. See https://dstlry.co/products/somna-hc for the full details as provided by Dstlry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J. Castaneda Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Scott, the book you have is priced at $40? That's what Diamond lists the price for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott J. Promish Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 My hardcover measures about 9x11", has a cover price of $30, and the only extras are the cover variants for the individual issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J. Castaneda Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Sounds like you have something different than our Bk 1-A then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott J. Promish Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 Alright, I'm going to submit it as Book 1-B with the standard ISBN as noted by Randall above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall J. Paske Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Respectfully, what I will outline below is how I think the Somna book versions should be listed in ComicBase. None of them have been there for long yet, so I hope they can be changed to keep the listing sensible. Bk 1/HC — This should NOT be the $75 Direct Market Exclusive version of the book currently shown. This should instead be the book @Scott J. Promish has, the regular Mass Market version of the book, with the Becky Cloonan cover and a retail price of $30. This is the most basic and widely available version of the book. Diamond has this version of the book here: https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/APR241460 . Dstlry has it here: https://dstlry.co/products/somna-hc . Bk 1/HC-A — This SHOULD be the $75 Direct Market Exclusive version of the book presently shown as Bk 1/HC, with the Tula Lotay cover. It has more pages and some bonus material. Diamond has this version of the book here: https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/APR241461 . Dstlry depicts it here: https://dstlry.co/products/somna-direct-market-exclusive-hc . Bk 1/HC-B — This should be the $200 Deluxe version, not currently in ComicBase at all. It has a cover by Julian Totino Tedesco. It's limited to 400 copies and has a signed tip-in plate, but the Dstlry website shows it has the same page count as the Direct Market Exclusive. Diamond doesn't seem to have it; it may be a Dstlry website exclusive, although they don't explicitly say that. They show it here: https://dstlry.co/products/somna-deluxe-hardcover. Bk 1/HC-C — This should be the $40 Oversized Hardcover Reserve Edition that comes out in September. It uses the same Becky Cloonan cover artwork (recolored) as the Mass Market edition, but it sounds like it will be larger and perhaps have some more bonus material. This is the one currently in ComicBase as Bk 1/A, a potentially problematic designation if softcover versions are forthcoming. And it should come after what I've called Bk 1/HC-A and Bk 1/HC-B, since it is being published later than those (which are already available). Diamond's listing for it is here: https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/JUL241588. Dstlry does not seem to have info on their website about this version yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott J. Promish Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 That sounds right to me. I'll edit my database entry if confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott J. Promish Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 Any official word on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J. Castaneda Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 Randall, can you submit content corrections based off your last post so we can get them all into the Master db? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall J. Paske Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 On 8/14/2024 at 11:45 AM, Mark J. Castaneda said: Randall, can you submit content corrections based off your last post so we can get them all into the Master db? It turns out that it is not possible to submit them the way I outlined earlier, because the "Hardcover" designation is at the same level as "Variation A," "Variation B," etc. That makes numbers like Bk 1/HC-B impossible to form. So some tweaking was necessary to what I outlined before. Please see below for how I submitted them. On 7/25/2024 at 5:01 PM, Randall J. Paske said: Bk 1/HC — This should NOT be the $75 Direct Market Exclusive version of the book currently shown. This should instead be the book @Scott J. Promish has, the regular Mass Market version of the book, with the Becky Cloonan cover and a retail price of $30. This is the most basic and widely available version of the book. Diamond has this version of the book here: https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/APR241460 . Dstlry has it here: https://dstlry.co/products/somna-hc . Bk 1/DM Bk 1/HC-A — This SHOULD be the $75 Direct Market Exclusive version of the book presently shown as Bk 1/HC, with the Tula Lotay cover. It has more pages and some bonus material. Diamond has this version of the book here: https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/APR241461 . Dstlry depicts it here: https://dstlry.co/products/somna-direct-market-exclusive-hc . Bk 1/DLX Bk 1/HC-B — This should be the $200 Deluxe version, not currently in ComicBase at all. It has a cover by Julian Totino Tedesco. It's limited to 400 copies and has a signed tip-in plate, but the Dstlry website shows it has the same page count as the Direct Market Exclusive. Diamond doesn't seem to have it; it may be a Dstlry website exclusive, although they don't explicitly say that. They show it here: https://dstlry.co/products/somna-deluxe-hardcover. Bk 1/A Bk 1/HC-C — This should be the $40 Oversized Hardcover Reserve Edition that comes out in September. It uses the same Becky Cloonan cover artwork (recolored) as the Mass Market edition, but it sounds like it will be larger and perhaps have some more bonus material. This is the one currently in ComicBase as Bk 1/A, a potentially problematic designation if softcover versions are forthcoming. And it should come after what I've called Bk 1/HC-A and Bk 1/HC-B, since it is being published later than those (which are already available). Diamond's listing for it is here: https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/JUL241588. Dstlry does not seem to have info on their website about this version yet. Bk 1/HC is now the regular Mass Market version of the book. Bk 1/DM (Direct Market Edition) is the old Bk 1/HC. I don't know if the "DM" tag is used much anymore, but it seemed to be the best option. Someone had already added Bk 1/DLX as such, though I added more data to the entry. Bk 1/A is now the upcoming Oversized Hardcover Reserve Edition. There wasn't really another designation that worked. Bk 1/DM (Direct Market Edition) could instead be called Bk 1/A, and Bk 1/A (Oversized Hardcover Reserve Edition) could instead be called Bk 1/B, if the editorial team prefers. But I submitted them as above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott J. Promish Posted August 15 Author Share Posted August 15 I have edited my record to Bk 1/HC and submitted the data and cover scan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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